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Hallo!

Ich habe in meiner .xsession-errors eine Meldung gefunden:
Code:
klauncher(3934) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry OnlyShowIn in "/etc/xdg/autostart/kupdateapplet-autostart.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon).

Kann man das einfach so korrigieren?

Gruß,

R
 
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Ja mache ich!

Ich habe auch schon etwas geändert daran:
Mit Fehler:
Code:
[Desktop Entry]
X-SuSE-translate=true
Type=Application
Exec=kupdateapplet
Terminal=false
Name=kupdateapplet
Icon=kupdateapplet

X-KDE-StartupNotify=false
X-KDE-autostart-condition=kupdateappletrc:General:Autostart:true
X-KDE-autostart-after=panel
OnlyShowIn=KDE

Dann habe ich die Datei mit einer anderen .desktop verglichen und dort war bei OnlyShowIn=KDE am Ende ein Semicolon.

Dieses habe ich jetzt angefügt. Also so:
Code:
[Desktop Entry]
X-SuSE-translate=true
Type=Application
Exec=kupdateapplet
Terminal=false
Name=kupdateapplet
Icon=kupdateapplet

X-KDE-StartupNotify=false
X-KDE-autostart-condition=kupdateappletrc:General:Autostart:true
X-KDE-autostart-after=panel
OnlyShowIn=KDE;

Das werdeich jetzt noch probieren. Ich bin ratlos! Vorallem ist es nicht nur dieses was das Problem scheinbar hat, sondern mehrere .desktop dateien.

Die müsste ich dann alle einzeln durchschauen?

Danke für die Hilfe!!

Gruß,

R
 
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Ok!

Dieses Semikolon hat die Fehlermeldung tatsächlich gelöst... jetzt geht es weiter:
Code:
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kaccess
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kmixctrl
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/hp-systray
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/konqueror
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde3/bin/appspreloader.sh
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde3/bin/runupdater
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kupdateapplet
W: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
W: core-util.c: setpriority(): Keine Berechtigung
W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Finden von originalem dlopen-Loader fehlgeschlagen.
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/policykit-kde
QObject: Do not delete object, 'unnamed', during its event handler!
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kmix
QObject: Do not delete object, 'unnamed', during its event handler!
[35;01mwarning: No hp: or hpfax: devices found in any installed CUPS queue. Exiting.[0m

[01mHP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.9.2)[0m
[01mSystem Tray Status Service ver. 2.0[0m

Copyright (c) 2001-9 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/pidgin
plasma(4392) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry MimeType in "/home/disk/Desktop/MozillaFirefox.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
klauncher(3932) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry MimeType in "/home/disk/Desktop/MozillaFirefox.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/firefox
*** nss-shared-helper: Shared database disabled (set NSS_USE_SHARED_DB to enable).
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/konsole

Pidgin und Firefox... diese Plasmoids habe ich übrigens einfach aus dem Startmenü heraus zur Oberfläche hinzugefügt mit der Funktion die man bei Rechtsklick dafür hat.

Gruß,

R

Gruß,

R
 
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Code:
[Desktop Entry]
X-SuSE-translate=true
Categories=Application;Network;WebBrowser;X-Ximian-Main;X-Ximian-Toplevel;
Name=Firefox
Comment=Web Browser
TryExec=firefox
Exec=firefox %u
Icon=firefox
Terminal=false
MimeType=text/html;application/xhtml+xml
Type=Application
NotShowIn=GNOME;
Vermutlich bei MimeType fehlt es dort?

edit: Lal das muss es ja fast sein der sagt ja schon in der Meldung "MimeType " /edit

Also in der Zeile: "MimeType=text/html;application/xhtml+xml" ein Semicolon dazu ";" ohne ""
 
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Da gibts noch ein Problem mit Plasma:

Irgendwas von Invalid Panel Size.... hier mal die .xsession-errors in voller Länge:
Code:
/etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started.
/etc/X11/xim: user environment variable LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD
INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method).
Trying to start a default input method for the locale de_DE.UTF-8 ...
There is no default input method for the current locale.
Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default)
Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols
                  Ignoring extra symbols
Warning:          Key <I57> not found in xfree86+aliases(qwertz) keycodes
                  Symbols ignored
Warning:          Key <I58> not found in xfree86+aliases(qwertz) keycodes
                  Symbols ignored
Warning:          No symbols defined for <SYRQ> (keycode 92)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <II5D> (keycode 93)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <II65> (keycode 101)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <BRK> (keycode 114)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <FK15> (keycode 120)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <FK16> (keycode 121)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <FK17> (keycode 122)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <KPDC> (keycode 123)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <NFER> (keycode 131)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I04> (keycode 132)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <AE13> (keycode 133)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I06> (keycode 134)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I07> (keycode 135)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I08> (keycode 136)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I09> (keycode 137)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I0A> (keycode 138)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I0B> (keycode 139)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I0C> (keycode 140)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I0D> (keycode 141)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I0E> (keycode 142)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I0F> (keycode 143)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I13> (keycode 147)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I14> (keycode 148)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I17> (keycode 151)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I18> (keycode 152)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I1A> (keycode 154)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I1B> (keycode 155)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K59> (keycode 157)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I1E> (keycode 158)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I1F> (keycode 159)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I23> (keycode 163)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I25> (keycode 165)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I26> (keycode 166)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I27> (keycode 167)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I28> (keycode 168)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I29> (keycode 169)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K5A> (keycode 170)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I2B> (keycode 171)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I2C> (keycode 172)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I2D> (keycode 173)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I2F> (keycode 175)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I31> (keycode 177)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I33> (keycode 179)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I34> (keycode 180)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K5B> (keycode 181)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K5D> (keycode 182)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K5E> (keycode 183)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K5F> (keycode 184)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I39> (keycode 185)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I3A> (keycode 186)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K62> (keycode 189)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K63> (keycode 190)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K64> (keycode 191)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K65> (keycode 192)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K66> (keycode 193)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I42> (keycode 194)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I45> (keycode 197)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K67> (keycode 198)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K68> (keycode 199)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K69> (keycode 200)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K6A> (keycode 201)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I4A> (keycode 202)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K6B> (keycode 203)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K6C> (keycode 204)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K6D> (keycode 205)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K6E> (keycode 206)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K6F> (keycode 207)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <HKTG> (keycode 208)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <KANA> (keycode 209)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <EISU> (keycode 210)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <AB11> (keycode 211)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I54> (keycode 212)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I55> (keycode 213)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I5A> (keycode 218)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K74> (keycode 219)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K75> (keycode 220)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <K76> (keycode 221)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I60> (keycode 224)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I61> (keycode 225)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I62> (keycode 226)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I64> (keycode 228)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I6E> (keycode 238)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I6F> (keycode 239)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I70> (keycode 240)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I71> (keycode 241)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I72> (keycode 242)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I73> (keycode 243)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I74> (keycode 244)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I75> (keycode 245)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I76> (keycode 246)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I77> (keycode 247)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I78> (keycode 248)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I79> (keycode 249)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7A> (keycode 250)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7B> (keycode 251)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7C> (keycode 252)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7D> (keycode 253)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7E> (keycode 254)
Warning:          No symbols defined for <I7F> (keycode 255)
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kded4
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4
kbuildsycoca4 running...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 154
  Extension:    143 (Uknown extension)
  Minor opcode: 11 (Unknown request)
  Resource id:  0x0
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kcminit_startup
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/ksmserver
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/plasma
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4
kwin(4356): Couldn't start knotify from knotify4.desktop:  "KDEInit kann „/usr/bin/knotify4“ nicht starten." 

X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)
  Resource id:  0x1800028
QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to Plasma::Dialog "", which already has a layout
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)
  Resource id:  0x1800093
kdeinit4: preparing to launch 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch 
plasma(4392)/libplasma Plasma::PanelSvgPrivate::generateBackground: Invalid panel size QSizeF(-1, -1) 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukserver
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/krunner
(Soprano::PluginManager) loading all plugins 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/usr/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found parser plugin  "nquadparser" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found serializer plugin  "nquadserializer" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found parser plugin  "raptorparser" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found serializer plugin  "raptorserializer" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/redlandbackend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found backend plugin  "redland" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/sesame2backend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found backend plugin  "sesame2" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/usr/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/redlandbackend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/sesame2backend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/etc/opt/kde3/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/opt/kde3/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) loaded plugin from "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_redlandbackend.so" 
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::PluginManager) loading all plugins 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/usr/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found parser plugin  "nquadparser" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found serializer plugin  "nquadserializer" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found parser plugin  "raptorparser" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found serializer plugin  "raptorserializer" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/redlandbackend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found backend plugin  "redland" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/sesame2backend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found backend plugin  "sesame2" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/usr/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/nquadserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorparser.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/raptorserializer.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/redlandbackend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) found plugin file "/usr/share/soprano/plugins/sesame2backend.desktop" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) plugin has proper version. 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/etc/opt/kde3/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) searching plugin file from  "/opt/kde3/share/soprano/plugins" 
(Soprano::PluginManager) loaded plugin from "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_redlandbackend.so"
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::PluginManager) loaded plugin from "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so"
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] 88 [main] INFO org.openrdf.query.parser.QueryParserRegistry - Registered service class org.openrdf.query.parser.serql.SeRQLParserFactory
97 [main] INFO org.openrdf.query.parser.QueryParserRegistry - Registered service class org.openrdf.query.parser.sparql.SPARQLParserFactory
CLuceneIndex::open in thread  3057403648 
CLuceneIndex::close in thread  3057403648 
CLuceneIndex::close done in thread  3057403648 
CLuceneIndex::open done in thread  3057403648
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (ServerCore) new socket connection.
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kaccess
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kmixctrl
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/hp-systray
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/konqueror
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde3/bin/appspreloader.sh
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /opt/kde3/bin/runupdater
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kupdateapplet
W: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
W: core-util.c: setpriority(): Keine Berechtigung
W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Finden von originalem dlopen-Loader fehlgeschlagen.
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/policykit-kde
QObject: Do not delete object, 'unnamed', during its event handler!
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kmix
QObject: Do not delete object, 'unnamed', during its event handler!
[35;01mwarning: No hp: or hpfax: devices found in any installed CUPS queue. Exiting.[0m

[01mHP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.9.2)[0m
[01mSystem Tray Status Service ver. 2.0[0m

Copyright (c) 2001-9 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/pidgin
plasma(4392) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry MimeType in "/home/disk/Desktop/MozillaFirefox.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
klauncher(3932) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry MimeType in "/home/disk/Desktop/MozillaFirefox.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/firefox
*** nss-shared-helper: Shared database disabled (set NSS_USE_SHARED_DB to enable).
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/konsole
findServiceByDesktopPath: YaST2/live-installer.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: YaST2/live-installer.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /usr/share/kde4/services/sysinfo.protocol not found
plasma(4392)/kdecore (KService) KServicePrivate::init: The desktop entry file  "/usr/share/kde4/services/sysinfo.protocol"  has Type= "Application"  but no Exec line 

findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/tracker.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/viewtopic.php.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/.xsession-errors.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/artikel.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/Docs.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/[2].desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/VMShare.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/plasma.kcrash.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/disk/.kde4/share/apps/RecentDocuments/pop.wav.desktop not found
couldn't create image from  "" 
QObject: Do not delete object, 'unnamed', during its event handler!
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/konsole
QPainter::begin: A paint device can only be painted by one painter at a time.
QPainter::begin: A paint device can only be painted by one painter at a time.
QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent
QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent
QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent

Gruß,

R
 
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Der hier is auch gut!

Code:
plasma(4392)/kdecore (KService) KServicePrivate::init: The desktop entry file  "/usr/share/kde4/services/sysinfo.protocol"  has Type= "Application"  but no Exec line

Wenn ich die Datei allerdings ansehe, dann hat die das fast:
Code:
[Protocol]
exec=kio_sysinfo
protocol=sysinfo
input=none
output=stream
reading=true
defaultMimetype=application/x-sysinfo
determineMimetypeFromExtension=false
Icon=hwinfo
Class=:local

Nur ist exec klein geschrieben?

Gruß,

R
 
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