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Amilo PA 2548 u. häufige Programmabstürze.

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barna

Newbie
hallo! ich habe ein sehr nerviges problem, seit ich auf ein neues notebook umgestiegen bin. habe nun ein FSC amilo pa 2548 (AMD Turion 64 x2) das ein für mich völlig neues verhalten zeigt:
sowohl unter suse 10.3 als auch unter ubuntu 8.04 kommt der rechner mit rechenintensiven programmen nicht klar! da reichts schon, firefox (3.0, bzw. 2.?) und sound-juicer oder amarok und firefox oder auch k3B und rythmbox gleichzeitig laufen zu lassen, schon verabschiedet sich eines der zwei programme ohne vorwarnung.
der rechner wird außerdem so heiß, das es sich bedenklich anfühlt - auch über die arbeitsplatzanzeige ist die temperaturanzeige gut zu beobachten: sie schnellt hoch auf etwas über 70 °C und dann schmeißt es suse (und ubuntu).
häufiger werde ich auch in solchen fällen ganz aus der persönlichen oberfläche geworfen und lande wieder bei der anmeldung... :(

leider muss ich sagen, dass dieses problem bei vista (ja! war drauf...) nicht auftritt, auch wenn ich damit selten länger unterwegs bin, aber von der dauer des betriebs hängt das problem scheinbar nicht ab.

was kann ich tun?? :? mein viel schwächeres altes medion-notebook hatte nie probleme mit überhitzung oder zwei gleichzeitig ausgeführten programmen!

hat es etwas mit den zwei prozessoren zu tun? bin völlig überfragt...

vielen dank schonmal, barna
 
onkelchentobi

onkelchentobi

Guru
Was fuer Bit Versionen der Distributionen hast du installiert, 32 oder 64?

Was fuer Kernel werden verwendet?

Hast du mal nachgeschaut ob irgend welche laufende Prozesse den Rechner auslasten und daher vl. auch die Temperatur entsprechend schnell steigt?

Ist den in /var/log Dateien vl. irgend etwas auffaelliges zu sehen?
 
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Newbie
hallo!
ich hab die 32 bit - versionen installiert, liegt hier der fehler? ich dachte, das wäre die normale und damit auch richtige...

die kernel sind bei suse Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default i686 und bei ubuntu der 2.6.24.18 -irgendwas. hoffe, das reicht dir als auskunft. :wink:

bei den prozessen hab ich versucht durchzusteigen, kenn mich aber mit der systemüberwachung (noch) nicht sonderlich gut aus. könnte beagle ein kandidat sein?
ansonsten hab ich nichts auffälliges entdecken können, nichts was die cpu-last so hochfährt...

bei den var/log meldungen gilt leider ähnliches, was meinen wissensstand angeht: worauf muß ich achten?

vielen dank für deine hilfe!
 
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whois

Ultimate Guru
barna schrieb:
ich hab die 32 bit - versionen installiert, liegt hier der fehler? ich dachte, das wäre die normale und damit auch richtige...
Zum Vergrößern anklicken....
Nö, das ist Grundsätzlich nicht verkehrt.
Führe doch bitte mal die Programme welche abstürzen in der Konsole aus.
Das gibt eine Fehlermeldung und diese Postest du im Original.
 
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(sound-juicer:6503): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_mini_object_unref: assertion `mini_object->refcount > 0' failed
*** glibc detected *** sound-juicer: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x08726400 ***
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x1bb)[0xb6fb361b]
/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaudioresample.so[0xb4f50fc8]
/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaudioresample.so[0xb4f4f5bb]
/usr/lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.0[0xb6d0b3ee]
/usr/lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.0[0xb6d0b572]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_pad_activate_push+0xb7)[0xb7cb57d7]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_pad_set_active+0x33f)[0xb7cb600f]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c9cb8b]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_iterator_fold+0x67)[0xb7ca9047]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c9c602]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c9c6c8]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c9ca17]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_change_state+0x37)[0xb7c99117]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c99663]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_set_state+0x53)[0xb7c981c3]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c8a1fc]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_change_state+0x37)[0xb7c99117]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c99663]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_set_state+0x53)[0xb7c981c3]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c8a1fc]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7cb8d77]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_change_state+0x37)[0xb7c99117]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_continue_state+0xe5)[0xb7c98db5]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_change_state+0x151)[0xb7c99231]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c99663]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_element_set_state+0x53)[0xb7c981c3]
sound-juicer[0x8066e86]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c8efa5]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x129)[0xb72e3759]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0[0xb72f7d1d]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x8c6)[0xb72f9916]
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x29)[0xb72f9c59]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0(gst_bus_async_signal_func+0xb7)[0xb7c8d3e7]
/usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0[0xb7c8e0bf]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_context_dispatch+0x178)[0xb725fbf8]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0[0xb7262e5e]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_loop_run+0x1e7)[0xb72631e7]
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_main+0xb4)[0xb76ad264]
sound-juicer(main+0x126a)[0x8059b6a]
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0)[0xb6f5a450]
sound-juicer[0x8054cf1]
======= Memory map: ========
08048000-0806f000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 82587 /usr/bin/sound-juicer
0806f000-08070000 rw-p 00027000 08:03 82587 /usr/bin/sound-juicer
08070000-08899000 rw-p 08070000 00:00 0 [heap]
b3372000-b3373000 ---p b3372000 00:00 0
b3373000-b3b73000 rwxp b3373000 00:00 0
b3b73000-b3ba5000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 83075 /usr/lib/libcroco-0.6.so.3.0.1
b3ba5000-b3ba8000 rw-p 00031000 08:03 83075 /usr/lib/libcroco-0.6.so.3.0.1
b3ba8000-b3bd8000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 83329 /usr/lib/libgsf-1.so.114.0.7
b3bd8000-b3bdb000 rw-p 0002f000 08:03 83329 /usr/lib/libgsf-1.so.114.0.7
b3bdb000-b3bdc000 rw-p b3bdb000 00:00 0
b3bdc000-b3c0c000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 83652 /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2.22.2
b3c0c000-b3c0Aborted
bernhard@bernhard-laptop:~$
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hallo!
hier beispielhaft die meldung beim ausführen von sound-juicer und firefox parallel - dies ist unter ubuntu, an dem ich gerade sitze, aber das problem ist wie gesagt bei suse das gleiche...
amarok blieb gerade hängen mit folgender ausgabe:
bernhard@bernhard-laptop:~$ amarok
Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x836e1c0 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
QLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x836e1c0 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow
QObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments
StarManager::ratingsColorsChanged() --> ContextBrowser::ratingOrScoreOrLabelsChanged(const QString&)
bernhard@bernhard-laptop:~$ QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QComboBox::setCurrentItem: (speakerComboBox) Index 1 out of range
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x3a00c26
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x3a00c26
KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing...
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x4400012
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x4400012
Found dcraw version: 8.83
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x44000c2
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x44000c2
X Error: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) 16
Major opcode: 62
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x3a001dd
bernhard@bernhard-laptop:~$
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ich hoffe, ihr könnt damit was anfangen.
 
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hallo, danke für die ratschläge, doch leider muß ich jetzt zur arbeit und kann mich der maßnahmen erst heute nachmittag-abend annehmen...
hoffentlich habt ihr so lange geduld! :wink:
 
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hallo! tut mir leid, aber in meinem bios gibts diese funktion nicht, kann das sein?!
ich kann einen mem-test über ubuntu/grub machen, aber das ist wohl was anderes, oder?

wie kann ich der sache auf die spur kommen?
 
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hallo! war nun wieder arbeiten und hab währenddessen 5 stunden lang den mem-test laufen lassen - wie ich glaube, ohne dass es uns weiterbringt. ich versuche mal, die spalten hier wiederzugeben:
dauer 5:05:11 - cached 2047M - RsvdMem 257M - MemMap e820.Std - Cache on - ECC off - Test Std - Pass 6 - Errors 0 - ECC Errs

ich werd nicht wirklich schlau daraus, aber fehler hat es doch wohl keine gegeben, oder?

könnt ihr mir bei der exegese helfen :wink: ?
 
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hallo,
hat niemand eine idee, was das problem genau sein könnte? hilft euch der mem-test weiter? :(

danke!!
 
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barna

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kann mir niemand weitere ratschläge geben? das problem ist wirklich dringlich!
danke schonmal!
 
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whois

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Hi

Schwierig.

Zeig und doch mal eine Übersicht der laufenden Prozesse im System.

Code: 
ps aux

cu
 
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ennatz@linux-839g:~> ps aux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.0 0.0 744 288 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 init [5]
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kthreadd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [migration/0]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 09:15 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [migration/1]
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 09:15 0:00 [ksoftirqd/1]
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [events/0]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [events/1]
root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [khelper]
root 29 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kblockd/0]
root 30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kblockd/1]
root 31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kacpid]
root 32 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kacpi_notify]
root 155 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [cqueue/0]
root 156 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [cqueue/1]
root 157 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kseriod]
root 184 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 09:15 0:00 [pdflush]
root 185 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 09:15 0:00 [pdflush]
root 186 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kswapd0]
root 187 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [aio/0]
root 188 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [aio/1]
root 419 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kpsmoused]
root 424 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kondemand/0]
root 425 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kondemand/1]
root 476 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [ata/0]
root 477 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [ata/1]
root 478 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [ata_aux]
root 481 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root 482 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root 487 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_2]
root 488 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_3]
root 489 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_4]
root 490 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_5]
root 625 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [ksuspend_usbd]
root 633 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [khubd]
root 1112 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kjournald]
root 1175 0.0 0.0 2256 1012 ? S<s 09:15 0:00 /sbin/udevd --d
root 1834 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_6]
root 1835 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [usb-storage]
root 1974 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kjournald]
root 1982 0.0 0.0 3652 904 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 /sbin/mount.ntf
root 1984 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kjournald]
root 2084 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 09:15 0:00 [kauditd]
root 2309 0.0 0.0 1736 524 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 /sbin/klogd -c
root 2311 0.0 0.0 1596 568 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 /sbin/acpid
root 2313 0.0 0.0 1844 664 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 /sbin/resmgrd
100 2314 0.0 0.0 2320 976 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemo
root 2317 0.0 0.0 2120 688 ? Ss 09:15 0:00 /sbin/syslog-ng
root 2351 0.0 0.1 7528 2304 ? Ssl 09:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/conso
101 2464 0.1 0.2 5852 4264 ? Ss 09:15 0:02 /usr/sbin/hald
root 2465 0.0 0.0 3052 1228 ? S 09:15 0:00 hald-runner
root 2528 0.0 0.0 3300 1404 ? S 09:16 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/ha
101 2529 0.0 0.0 2228 1052 ? S 09:16 0:00 hald-addon-acpi
root 2531 0.0 0.0 3284 1284 ? S 09:16 0:00 hald-addon-inpu
root 2542 0.0 0.2 10712 5080 ? S 09:16 0:00 hpssd /usr/shar
root 2557 0.0 0.0 3440 676 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /opt/kde3/bin/k
root 2585 0.0 0.0 2692 1116 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdb
root 2591 0.0 0.0 3236 1456 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/Netwo
root 2606 0.0 0.1 12864 2452 ? Ssl 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/Netwo
root 2657 0.0 0.0 3284 1284 ? S 09:16 0:00 hald-addon-stor
root 2685 0.0 0.0 3288 1284 ? S 09:16 0:00 hald-addon-stor
root 2746 0.0 0.0 9960 624 ? S<sl 09:16 0:00 /sbin/auditd -s
root 2748 0.0 0.0 10848 648 ? S<s 09:16 0:00 /sbin/audispd
root 2753 0.0 0.0 2420 620 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/irqba
avahi 2765 0.0 0.0 2748 1540 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 avahi-daemon: r
root 2768 0.0 0.0 141420 1072 ? Ssl 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
root 2941 0.0 0.0 1756 512 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/avahi
bin 2975 0.0 0.0 1628 440 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /sbin/portmap
root 2988 0.0 0.0 6024 1940 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
root 3043 0.0 0.0 6416 1864 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/lib/postfi
postfix 3065 0.0 0.0 6216 1812 ? S 09:16 0:00 pickup -l -t fi
postfix 3066 0.0 0.0 6256 1848 ? S 09:16 0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo
root 3069 0.0 0.0 1988 564 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root 3085 0.0 0.0 4424 1816 ? S 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/power
root 3115 0.0 0.0 5300 988 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/smppp
root 3136 0.0 0.0 3028 540 ? S 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/smart
root 3184 0.0 0.0 1448 152 ? S 09:16 0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-
root 3200 0.0 0.0 1696 420 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-
root 3206 0.0 0.0 1444 152 ? S 09:16 0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-
root 3241 0.0 0.0 1440 144 ? S 09:16 0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-
root 3248 0.0 0.0 6112 1048 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 3255 0.0 0.6 16652 13176 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/vmwar
root 3334 0.0 0.0 1932 288 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-
root 3335 0.0 0.0 1932 292 ? Ss 09:16 0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-
root 3378 0.0 0.0 2088 664 tty1 Ss+ 09:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty
root 3380 0.0 0.0 2088 644 tty2 Ss+ 09:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty
root 3381 0.0 0.0 2084 644 tty3 Ss+ 09:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty
root 3382 0.0 0.0 2084 644 tty4 Ss+ 09:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty
root 3384 0.0 0.0 2084 644 tty5 Ss+ 09:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty
root 3385 0.0 0.0 2084 644 tty6 Ss+ 09:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty
root 3743 7.7 1.8 828668 37464 tty7 SLs+ 09:40 0:21 /usr/bin/Xorg -
root 3744 0.0 0.0 4720 1956 ? S 09:40 0:00 -:0
ennatz 3768 0.0 0.0 4116 1436 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 /bin/sh /opt/kd
ennatz 3824 0.0 0.0 3532 476 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-ag
ennatz 3825 0.0 0.0 5456 660 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-ag
ennatz 3830 0.0 0.0 3012 724 ? S 09:40 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-l
ennatz 3831 0.0 0.0 2412 644 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemo
root 3870 0.0 0.0 1448 148 ? S 09:40 0:00 start_kdeinit -
ennatz 3871 0.0 0.2 24448 5960 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 kdeinit Running
ennatz 3874 0.0 0.1 23856 2748 ? S 09:40 0:00 dcopserver [kde
ennatz 3876 0.0 0.2 28084 6224 ? S 09:40 0:00 klauncher [kdei
ennatz 3878 0.2 0.6 34480 14252 ? S 09:40 0:00 kded [kdeinit]
ennatz 3883 0.0 0.0 1580 364 ? S 09:40 0:00 kwrapper ksmser
ennatz 3885 0.0 0.3 26976 8264 ? S 09:40 0:00 ksmserver [kdei
ennatz 3886 0.2 0.5 31024 12040 ? S 09:40 0:00 kwin [kdeinit]
ennatz 3887 0.2 0.1 4548 2524 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 kompmgr
ennatz 3889 0.7 0.7 32940 15696 ? S 09:40 0:02 kdesktop [kdein
ennatz 3891 0.6 0.9 43456 19548 ? S 09:40 0:01 kicker [kdeinit
ennatz 3892 0.0 0.2 25388 4704 ? S 09:40 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 3894 0.0 0.2 25388 4620 ? S 09:40 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 3902 0.0 0.5 32564 12240 ? S 09:40 0:00 kerry [kdeinit]
ennatz 3903 0.0 0.5 71152 11208 ? Sl 09:40 0:00 /usr/lib/evolut
ennatz 3912 0.3 0.4 45096 9960 ? S 09:40 0:00 knotify [kdeini
ennatz 3914 0.1 0.8 37072 17644 ? S 09:40 0:00 konqueror [kdei
ennatz 3916 0.0 0.4 29672 8660 ? SN 09:40 0:00 kio_thumbnail [
ennatz 3918 2.1 1.2 90244 26304 ? SNl 09:40 0:05 beagled /usr/li
ennatz 3921 0.0 0.4 28144 9488 ? S 09:40 0:00 klipper [kdeini
ennatz 3926 0.0 0.5 30196 10848 ? S 09:40 0:00 kpowersave [kde
ennatz 3928 0.1 0.5 30936 12224 ? S 09:40 0:00 kmix [kdeinit]
ennatz 3930 0.0 0.5 30528 10708 ? S 09:40 0:00 kinternet [kdei
ennatz 3934 0.1 0.5 31824 11176 ? S 09:40 0:00 knetworkmanager
ennatz 3937 0.0 0.1 6144 3352 ? S 09:40 0:00 /usr/lib/GConf/
root 3962 0.0 0.0 3252 628 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 /usr/sbin/smppp
root 3963 0.0 0.0 2948 1204 ? Ss 09:40 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd
ennatz 3987 0.0 0.1 33032 3268 ? Ssl 09:40 0:00 /usr/lib/bonobo
ennatz 4024 2.8 1.8 96452 38008 ? Sl 09:40 0:07 kontact
ennatz 4137 0.0 0.3 55536 7380 ? Sl 09:40 0:00 /usr/lib/evolut
ennatz 4189 0.0 0.6 30792 12720 ? S 09:41 0:00 korgac --miniic
ennatz 4190 0.0 0.0 3852 1336 ? S 09:41 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bi
ennatz 4195 4.9 2.6 155008 54444 ? Sl 09:41 0:11 /usr/lib/firefo
ennatz 4196 0.0 0.3 55928 7168 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_pop3 [kdein
ennatz 4198 0.0 0.2 55132 5636 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_pop3 [kdein
ennatz 4203 0.0 0.2 27788 5012 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 4204 0.0 0.2 25644 5008 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 4205 0.0 0.2 27788 4968 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 4216 0.0 0.2 27788 4972 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 4217 0.0 0.2 27788 4968 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 4218 0.0 0.2 27788 4964 ? S 09:41 0:00 kio_file [kdein
ennatz 4259 1.1 0.9 44400 19568 ? SNl 09:41 0:02 beagled-helper
ennatz 4308 0.1 0.3 56792 8036 ? S 09:43 0:00 kio_smtp [kdein
ennatz 4322 3.5 0.7 34096 15580 ? R 09:44 0:00 konsole [kdeini
ennatz 4323 0.1 0.1 4856 2180 pts/1 Ss 09:44 0:00 /bin/bash
ennatz 4333 0.0 0.0 2516 848 pts/1 R+ 09:45 0:00 ps aux
ennatz@linux-839g:~>
Zum Vergrößern anklicken....

das ists momentan. wenn ich von der arbeit zurück bin, kann ichs nochmal mit den "gefährdeten" programmen wie k9copy oder amarok zusammen probieren, also unter last.

ist denn jetzt für dich schon etwas zu erkennen?

danke
 
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whois

Ultimate Guru
Ausser dem üblichen Verdächtigen sehe ich da nichts.
Benutzt du Beagle oft wenn nicht schmeiss ihn runter der frisst nur unnötig Ressourcen.
Benutzt du nur KDE oder auch Gnome bzw. Gnome Programme ich sehe Bonobo ist bei dir aktiviert.
 
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barna

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ich benutze beagle eigentlich nie - werd ihn mal runterwerfen. gnome benutze ich unter suse nicht, nur einige gnome-programme.
unter ubuntu 8.04 hab ich aber (klar) gnome als oberfläche. da ich auch bei ubuntu diese rauswürfe und abstürze habe, kann es mit der gewählten oberfläche wohl nicht zu tun haben, oder?

könnte es denn an defekter hardware liegen, auch wenn der mem-test keinen fehler angezeigt hat?
 
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barna schrieb:
könnte es denn an defekter hardware liegen, auch wenn der mem-test keinen fehler angezeigt hat?
Zum Vergrößern anklicken....
Das liegt nahe.
Ich würde an deiner Stelle mal eine Live Distribution wie Sidux nutzen und mal einen längeren Test(Viele Programme aufrufen) damit fahren.
Danach kann man zumindest wenn es da auch Auftritt sagen das es Hardware bedingt ist.
Ich kann mir beim besten Willen fast nichts anderes vorstellen.
 
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hallo!

hat nun leider länger gedauert, aber ich habe beim versuch, live-dvds zu brennen gemerkt, dass mein brenner womöglich ein ärgeres problem hat - auch unter vista. die abstürze gibt es aber auch ohne anteilnahme des laufwerks.

abgesehen davon ist es mir nicht gelungen, mit nem live-system den gleichen absturz hervorzurufen :? ! auch bei voller programmauslastung kein fehler...

kann es an der festplatte liegen? und wenn, wie kann ich die überprüfen?

oder was seht ihr noch für möglichkeiten, was sagt ihr dazu?
 
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